The TC grip I was referring to was the 'original' that had the deep Slice where your hand World wide web rests, it gave rather a bite. The two TC's I have now tend to be the later (larger sized 'humpback' sort) grips that handle recoil a lot better, not a dilemma while in the 30-thirty, 35 Rem. and 375 Get. barrels I have.Guns Intercontinental will